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colls (she/her) ([personal profile] colls) wrote in [community profile] tv_talk2013-10-29 06:48 pm

Supernatural Season 9 - Home Base



- gif credit
- spoilers contained below
- criticism of show/characters welcome, but please don't be an asshat (ie. no character/actor bashing, no ship wars)
- general thread

- 9.01 I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here
- 9.02 Devil May Care
- 9.03 I'm No Angel
- 9.04 Slumber Party
- 9.05 Dog Dean Afternoon
- 9.06 Heaven Can't Wait
- 9.07 Bad Boys
- 9.08 Rock and a Hard Place
- 9.09 Holy Terror
- 9.10 Road Trip
- 9.11 First Born
- 9.12 Sharp Teeth
- 9.13 The Purge

Coming up:
- Feb. 25 - Captives

Enjoy the show!!! ♥
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Re: GENERAL THREAD

[personal profile] csichick_2 2013-10-31 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I need to catch up. And by catch up, I mean start this season. I'll deal with the giant gaping hole that is half of season 5, all of seasons 6 and 7, and most of season 8 later.

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Re: 9.04 Slumber Party

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I'M SO EXCITEDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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[personal profile] kate 2013-10-30 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
WHY AM I ON THE WEST COOOOOOOOOOAST?!!! I want my episode noooooooooooooow! :(
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[personal profile] kate 2013-10-30 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
And as excited as I was to see Charlie, that was... not my favorite ep ever. I'm still working through how I feel about a lot of things, but basically I want all the femslash and I hope Dorothy and Charlie are happy in Oz and come back soon.

Also, the facade cracking soooooooooooooooo slowly, the anticipation of Sam finding out about Zeke is KILLING ME.

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Not my favourite Charlie Ep, but a pretty decent ep regardless. Loved all the dorothy/charlie moments (could def. ship it :D) and CHARLIE in general. I liked the few moments where sam said charlie was smart, and charlie counts herself as family.

Not as happy with all the stupid lies :( but oh well.

Gosh i want an Oz spin off

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9.06 Heaven Can't Wait

[personal profile] laisserais 2013-11-13 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow, this is uncomfortably classist. I'm like, squirming right now. 15 minutes in, and Dean's making fun of Castiel's job. Ouch. This is like the third ep in a row where Dean's humor has gotten mean, I feel like.

Dude, Dean, you threw him out with nothing and you're making fun? And also, I mean, I don't know, call me over-sensitive or whatever, but I just feel like the entire jest is in poor taste. Plenty of folks would kill to have a job at the gas and sip. I feel like the writers are showing a little bit of their entitlement here.

On the other hand: I'm seriously kind of actually literally wanting to ship Kevin/Sam rn
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Will say, kind of enjoying the Dean-giving-Cas-dating-tips thing. Total mentor kink. And I love that as soon as he figures out the connection, Dean's first thought is for Castiel's safety.

Also, lolwtf Castiel singing lullabies. Adorbs/ridiculous. and OH look: parallels! We get to hear about Castiel's feelings. Aw. I'm really enjoying Castiel being human, because we get to have more of him without worrying about him magically fixing everything.

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[personal profile] veritas_poet 2013-11-13 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I enjoyed this one far more than the dog ep or the prior one. I don't find casual sex funny. But hey, that's me.

Confused and sad Cas is adorable. I couldn't believe she had him BABYSITTING! Poor guy!

Not sure what's going on with Crowley. (But I hope they give him more to do soon. Having Mark Sheppard just chained in a chair every week is a waste of a brilliant actor. He's probably bored to tears too.)

I'm really at a loss as to where this season is going. Feels like it's been a slow start thus far. I guess we'll just have to see.
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[personal profile] laisserais 2013-11-14 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
haha, Poor Cas and the babysitting. That scene was adorable.

And ITA: we need more Sheppard!
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Re: 9.07 Bad Boys

[personal profile] veritas_poet 2013-11-21 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Not sure if spoiler warnings are needed on posts, but:

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Despite the Backstory From Out of NOWHERE, I enjoyed this ep very much! In list form, since it's after midnight and I am BEAT:

- A good old fashioned Saving People, Hunting Things episode! It felt so old school!

- Teen Dean was played pretty well. Not as great as some of the kids they've had playing their younger versions in previous years, but good enough.

- Time with the boys getting along, working a straightforward case and not dealing with all the secrets and all of that.

- Dean in Daddy Mode! Awww!

- Timmy finding his inner super hero. AWWWWW!


There's one negative bit and it's something that has bothered me for SEASONS now.

- The portrayal of John Winchester as a complete jerk, borderline abusive (or all the way abusive) who was so hard hearted that he wouldn't let Dean stay one more freaking day to attend a dance. If we look back to early seasons, he just wasn't like that. Yes, he left the boys alone. A lot. But it wasn't like he was out having fun or simply being obsessive about hunting. He was hunting with a purpose. And there was no doubt that he loved his sons more than anything!

It was offset a bit by the scene of Dean looking at Sam and really that's why he left, but still. I loved John Winchester. I hate the way they've rewritten it all to make him look like nothing more than an abusive, neglectful father who didn't care about his kids and only ordered them around to do his bidding. That's not the man we knew.

Anyway, I enjoyed this one. It's been rare lately that I've wanted to immediately rewatch an ep, but I'd love to see this one again.

Another day, when I'm actually awake...

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Re: 9.08 Rock and a Hard Place

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OK. I mean, I'm not looking for a whole lot out of this show. It's not Mad Men; it's not even Downton Abbey, but still. I can't be sure if I'm just cranky, or if this show really is getting worse.

And specifically, I mean, is this show getting worse at Dean's characterization? Because I feel like the last three eps in a row (at least) have been straight up OOC for him. And I'm not talking about the thing with Ezekiel and the lying. That's in character, imo, if misguided.

I'm talking about the littler things. The details. In this case, I mean Dean's sneering derision for virgins, Christians, porn stars and women in general.

And here is where it's hard to say if I'm over-sensitive (doubtless what the writers would think) or I'm really seeing some seriously offensive objectification.

The scene where Dean's in Susie's house, and comes across the porn DVDs (which I am unclear on WHY she'd just have those lying around, but whatevs) made me seriously consider autotrepannation. Its set up is obvious and icky enough, with the whole "hoodie and sneakers = unsexy, intentionally offputting, body not for consumption" and then wham: unzip that hoodie and the bow-chicka-wow-wow music starts. Suddenly she's sexually available.

The minute Dean figures out that she's a former porn star, all bets are off. She's nothing but a thing he's about to conquer. He barely had to suffer through one minute of doubt about his irresistible charms.

Nevermind the fact that it's evident that Susie has gone through an insane amount of trouble to conceal her identity. Nevermind her choices, and the fact that, until Dean, at least, she'd taken chastity very seriously. She'd felt called to God. All of that flies out the window the minute Dean says, "hey, I know you."

And then it's like: oops, tee hee, you caught me. I really am a porn star, masquerading this whole time as a virtuous girl. But see, since I can only be one or the other, and you've discovered my ~true self, then therefore I must jump your bones, because I am a promiscuous slut on the inside! Or something. Like she'd just been waiting for the opportunity to renounce her vows. That she took voluntarily.

And I mean look: I'm definitely no prude; I'm also definitely no Christian, but if people want to believe in Jesus and not have sex, then that's their prerogative. And this ep is like, the third in a row, I think, where Dean (and by extension, the viewer) is clearly standing in moral judgment of these misguided yahoos. First it was the animal rights activists, then it was people who work minimum wage at convenience stores, and now it's porn stars who've been born again.

And the most insidious part of this is that in each instance, Dean's derision is borne out as the correct response. He's proven 'right' at every turn. But he's basically walking around being an enormous douche.

WHY ARE THEY MAKING ME HATE DEAN? I don't want to hate Dean. In the past, when they've made him douchey, there's been some 'redeeming' act he's performed, that sort of set the cosmic scales back into balance. Like, in the past, sure he'd been flawed and imperfect, but he still contributed to the world. Lately, I feel like he's just racking up karmic debt for being an asshole.
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Re: 9.09 Holy Terror

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I really enjoyed this episode!!! I think it was slightly more action packed than this season has been and the ANGEL CIVIL WAR IS SO INTERESTINGGGGGGGGGGG I WANT MOREEEEEEEEE.

obviously i'm not too happy about the end but i hope its turned around? MAYBE? lol

plus i got date night with dean and cas

also jared padalecki is nailing the acting atm
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So is it just me, or was anyone saying "WHAT ABOUT THAT SIGIL YOU JUST LEARNED, DEAN?" for the whole episode? I mean, who am I to complain about a little Sammy-whump, I know, but... that seemed like extraordinarily bad falling down on the logic, there.

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;slkjf;salkdjf;salkjfs;ldkfj CAS AND SAM. DEAN AND CROWLEY. CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN. This is the first episode this season where I have forgiven everything and just been :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!

I fucking love Robbie Thompson.

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Gaaaarthhhhh!!!
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

I am still mulling this one over. Basically my reaction really is: GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTH!!!!!

And then, also, I love it when the Winchesters are having a tough time. Also, I like Sam calling Dean on his fucked-up-ness. I think, though, that the end was.... hm. Either too much or not enough. Sam has never bought into family the way Dean has, but to leave it there? Really?

Still, I love them being uncomfortable around each other, and I can't wait for the resolution. It's (almost always) satisfying when they work it out.

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OMG OMG OMG I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 9.13 OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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9x13 - The Purge

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Sam and Dean are on the hunt for a fish taco.
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6x14 - Captives

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The Winchesters are stunned to discover that the MoL bunker is being haunted by Kevin.
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Re: 6x14 - Captives

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I'm really really glad Kevin got some closure, and I'm REALLY glad Mama Tran was alive!!! Totally did not expect that. But still, it sucks that Kevin is dead, and the demon at the storage space SUCKKKED. I kept imagining Jensen's day at work: pretend to be tied to a post, listen to this kid from community theater pretend to be an actor.

I liked that there is still tension between Sam and Dean. This ep's version felt much more believable to me. Maybe it was the pouting in the room. It felt like a sibling spat. Dean's passive aggressive, veiled allusions to the issue felt like classic Dean, as well.

Each pair of captives/captors reversed itself neatly, which is par for the course for this show, and Castiel is yet again an unwilling leader. Good thing angels are immortal. If they were lemmings, they'd have all jumped off a cliff by now.

On the whole, the show continues to suffer from weird editing and pacing choices. All of the scenes with the angels felt stilted and awkward when it came to line delivery. Maybe that's an intentional choice?

Still can't prove to me that Misha Collins and Ronan Farrow are two different people.

Castle Storage: a country-wide franchise in this universe?

To sum up: Won't miss Bart, barely knew him. This show needs MOAR ABADDON already.

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9.20 Bloodlines

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OH MY GOD FUCK THIS EPISODE STARTING WITH THE FRIDGED FUCKING GIRLFRIEND/ALMOST FIANCEE.

As soon as I saw her, I said to my wife: "She dies. And he ends up wearing the ring around his neck as a reminder of his ~tragic past~."

Fuck you, show, for making me right. I'm angry about a lot of things in these recent eps, but that just takes the fucking cake. We all know how very little Supernatural thinks about women, but the only women characters we see for this spinoff are: the fridged not-fiancee, the ex-girlfriend who has her agency stripped from her by her boyfriend's brother and her father, and the shapeshifter that wants to start a war - an evil bitch with whom we are not meant to sympathize.

Oh, and Susan, who is a piece of meat that's not even worth refrigerating. Clearly that couldn't have been a Steve.

Fuck you, show. I am not watching your spinoff.
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9.21 King of the Damned

[personal profile] kate 2014-05-07 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
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9X22 Stairway to Heaven

[personal profile] veritas_poet 2014-05-15 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Man alive, not even SPN gets any activity on stupid DW!

Noooooooooo! Tamoh! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

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Re: 9X22 Stairway to Heaven

[personal profile] kate 2014-05-16 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Ha, well, it's been a tough season, and there were only a few of us here in the first place.

I'm still gathering all my feels about the season; I figure Tahmoh will be in the next ep, too, but SPN surprises me a lot on that front.

I'm hoping for a really messed up ending, so we can deal with the Mark of Cain next season - I feel like it's got way too much potential to just handily go away at the end of this season.

Re: 9X22 Stairway to Heaven

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9.23 Do You Believe in Miracles?

[personal profile] kate 2014-05-21 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
So. That was a season finale.
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Re: 9.23 Do You Believe in Miracles?

[personal profile] kate 2014-05-21 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm actually really pleased. It's exactly what I expected to happen and I'm pleased with the direction they took. I hope Dean stays a big bad for most of the next season and I hope Cas decides to fall. There's been so much fic already! I can't wait for the season end epics, I'm sure there are going to be so many amazing stories. :D :D :D