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Supernatural Season 9 - Home Base

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- 9.01 I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here
- 9.02 Devil May Care
- 9.03 I'm No Angel
- 9.04 Slumber Party
- 9.05 Dog Dean Afternoon
- 9.06 Heaven Can't Wait
- 9.07 Bad Boys
- 9.08 Rock and a Hard Place
- 9.09 Holy Terror
- 9.10 Road Trip
- 9.11 First Born
- 9.12 Sharp Teeth
- 9.13 The Purge

Coming up:
- Feb. 25 - Captives

Enjoy the show!!! ♥

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Gaaaarthhhhh!!!

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

I am still mulling this one over. Basically my reaction really is: GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTH!!!!!

And then, also, I love it when the Winchesters are having a tough time. Also, I like Sam calling Dean on his fucked-up-ness. I think, though, that the end was.... hm. Either too much or not enough. Sam has never bought into family the way Dean has, but to leave it there? Really?

Still, I love them being uncomfortable around each other, and I can't wait for the resolution. It's (almost always) satisfying when they work it out.

It's one of the few things they haven't triangulated yet: You can have hunting and Sam, but not 'brotherhood.' Hm! It'll be interesting to see how that will play out. If they can actually show that tension, it'd be interesting, for sure.

Well, next week's trailer doesn't seem like it'll be good for that, but you never know - sometimes the guys manage to put just the right spin on things to make them work (and it could be super effective in what looks to be a humor ep).

I am still mulling this one over. Basically my reaction really is: GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTH!!!!!

This was my reaction as well!

Garth put me off a bit at first. I thought the actor was either deathly ill, or perhaps had an eating disorder. He worried me. Then I looked him up and learned of his past battle with cancer. Glad he seems to be doing well now!

And the character quickly won me over. Now I always want to give him a hug. He'd like that. Even Dean can't resist, LOL!

I love DJ Qualls, and have for as long as I've known of him. I particularly like Garth, though, because he brings a kind of sweetness to the Winchesters - the best part of which is how much, for all their eye-rolling, they crave it. Dean especially. I love the hugs.

True!

He'd better not meet a bad end - like nearly everyone who gets involved with the Winchesters seems to. No wonder they have no social lives!

Sam has never bought into family the way Dean has
No, but IMO it's because Dean has grabbed onto "family" as a crutch, it's like something that is supposed to excuse overstepping boundaries and all manner of disregarding of Sam. Because of family. I don't think Dean's perception of family is entirely healthy.

I think part of that is because Dean lost his childhood in a way Sam didn't. Dean has a huge blindspot when it comes to family and Sam knows this. Sam's reaction to what you do for family isn't at all abnormal. Dean's is. But because the narrative of Supernatural is mostly from Dean's POV, we tend to side more with Dean and less with Sam.
(my 2 cents -- I have not seen 9.13 yet so.....)

I love both brothers and their dysfunction is so painful sometimes. Ugh.

I think step-mom's version of pack and family is also fucked up, but on the other side of the coin. I felt for the preacher-dad who wasn't born but bitten and he tried to make peace with his lot in life and improve his family's chances of survival but his wife only saw his weakness and pandering to humanity.
SO SAD
I'm glad Garth has found a home!!
*sniffs*
That has made me happy. I hope we never see him again so he stays that way - LOL

No, but IMO it's because Dean has grabbed onto "family" as a crutch, it's like something that is supposed to excuse overstepping boundaries and all manner of disregarding of Sam. Because of family. I don't think Dean's perception of family is entirely healthy.

Yes, definitely! I completely agree!

I also agree that it's excellent that Garth seems happy - I hope to see him again, but not at the expense of his happiness.

I think this is one of those episodes I'm going to have to rewatch to really get. It was great to see Garth again, but I felt like--while Jensen did a great job--Dean's vitriol for Garth was disproportionate to the amount of screen time he's had. Like, if Dean had behaved that way toward Bobby, I would have gotten it. But even the 'maybe monsters are good' plot couldn't really encompass how much we as viewers know Garth. I feel like he's not well known enough to yell at? Not to mention that Garth is a delicate flower. DJ Qualls does a great job playing his vulnerability.

That's fascinating, because I really feel like Garth is one of the family. He's right up there with Charlie for me. It's more reluctant with Garth (though Dean seems to have given in pretty early on), but it's sincere and has always been. He was mentioned as much as Bobby used to be over S8.

So this pretty much held for me (and I frakking LOVE DJ Qualls), though it wasn't an episode I'll come back to again and again. I need to watch it one more time because I missed a few things while I was watching live, and I need a hook for my

episodic_supernatural story. I should probably do something with the last five minutes, but I'm not sure I'm up for that much angst. It'd have to be all internal and I hate having to write Dean POV stories where it's all thinking. And Sam's POV isn't that interesting, I don't think, because he's actually NOT thinking at the moment. At least, it feels that way to me. It feels like he's just hurting, and he's sort of wandering through his life like a zombie, trying to come to terms with everything and decide what he needs to do with regard to Dean - which he can't really do because he can't think clearly about this yet.

Cool! Are you doing like a coda to the ep?

because he's actually NOT thinking at the moment. At least, it feels that way to me. It feels like he's just hurting, and he's sort of wandering through his life like a zombie, trying to come to terms with everything ITA. Poor Sam. Jared's actually doing a decent job of showing Sam at the end of his rope.

I admit to getting a bit confused about werewolves between SPN and Teen Wolf, so whatever I felt didn't fit I just handwaved or blamed on crossing shows in my brain. :)

I'm surprised no one brought up Lenore and her vampire pack.

And I'm glad Garth didn't die at the end of the episode. I wonder if his pack is going to be involved or mentioned in the new series at all -- is it some sort of setup saying that there are 'good' packs around?

The little I've read about the spinoff is that it's five tribes of... werewolves? All werewolves? Something makes me think that some of them are vampires, but I'm sure not, considering they're probably going for the Teen Wolf groupies. Based in Chicago. And there is a hunter who is trying to pick them all off. Presumably some tribes are good and some are evil and some are just whatever, we don't believe in the good/evil dichotomy.

I don't think Garth has anything to do with it, as DJ has another series (something popular, I think) and it was near impossible getting him back on Supernatural at all.

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