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Over the past couple of weeks, I started and finished three series. They were The Breakthrough, Patience, and The Crow Girl. The Breakthrough is a Netflix limited series docudrama about Sweden's second most famous murder investigation, which took the cops like, 20 years to finally solve, but at least they solved it, which can't be said for Sweden's most famous murder case. Patience is an odd-couple detective procedural, where the partners are an actual detective and a young autistic civilian worker employed as a cataloguer of police evidence. It was... probably better if not binged. On the plus side, the actor playing Patience, the autistic character is actually autistic, but the plots were somewhat ludicrous (each episode was a different case), and it's the same old same old plot line of the brilliant/eccentric/neurodivergent outsider who solves all the cases for them. You start to wonder why police departments don't just do away with actual detectives and instead hire a bunch of eccentric geniuses and save actual cops for just the grunt work. The Crow Girl is another police procedural, and much better than Patience. I thought it was going to be a limited series, but NO! Cliffhanger ending so more to come.

I also continued to watched, and in some cases, finish, series previously started (some last fall). That list includes the season 7 finale of Outlander, which was great and threw in a real twist that was NOT in the books, but apparently an idea batted around by the author of the books. I also finished (just last night) season 3 of The Traitors UK, which I loved -- especially all the new twists they introduced to keep the format fresh. Also continued with Dexter Original Sin, Will Trent, Curse of Oak Island, The Pitt, Silent Witness, and Hacks.

I also started watching, but have not finished the following new shows/seasons of shows: On Call, a police drama on Prime -- which I am enjoying and like that the episodes are only about 30 minutes rather than a full hour; season 2 of Black Snow, an Australian police procedural; and season 2 of Severance, but don't tell my husband about that one! We'd decided to wait until it was all available, or mostly all available before starting to watch, but I just couldn't resist. Plus I was worried about encountering spoilers online. So I've been watching each new episode (only 2 thus far) early in the morning on the weekend when he's still in bed. It will be fine -- I always miss details the first time through so it will probably help me pick up on things when I do finally watch it with him.

I also tried to watch some Australian Open tennis when I could, but due to time zones, that wasn't a lot.

As for what I'm looking forward to... well, I don't want to start anything new until I've finished at least Black Snow and possibly On Call. However, there is the new season of The Night Agent -- season 1 was really fun and the reviews for season 2 are equally good. Also, the Star Trek Section 31 movie is available. Reviews are pretty bad, but I'll likely watch it anyway, because Star Trek and Michelle Yeoh. Season 4 of Mythic Quest starts this week as well...

You start to wonder why police departments don't just do away with actual detectives and instead hire a bunch of eccentric geniuses and save actual cops for just the grunt work.

Heh! I just started an episode of Astrid which is very much in this vein and I'm not sure I'll continue with it.

I plan to watch Mythic when I get Apple+ back, and will be watching Section 31 possibly this weekend.

Haven't seen the newest Traitors UK season yet! Excited to hear there are some new twists.

I have no idea if the UK one ends up on anything available in Canada so I just torrented as it aired in the UK. I would have been too at risk for spoilers otherwise because so many people I follow on Bluesky watch it. The torrents were usually available about 30-40 minutes after the broadcast had ended in the UK.

I was kinda waiting for another post, although I have posted this stuff on my personal journal already ;)

I watched another ill-fated Netflix show: The One. I read the book by John Marrs in 2022 and I feel like I should have watched the show a bit closer to reading the book. I'm not sure if I simply don't remember the book well enough, but that was a rather loose adaptation, wasn't it? I don't remember details from the book, but there was a serial killer storyline, that I'm sure of. I'm not sure about other story lines in the book, but none of the things in the show felt familiar apart from the basic premise. I suppose in that sense it works as an adaptation, because there are plenty of stories that could play out in front of that background. Still, it feels like they just took the book's idea, didn't read the book, and then created a show. Of course, a lot of the story lines have an open ending and the show was canceled. I really liked the book, the show not so much. It just works at lot better in the written form if that makes sense. I feel like the book was very adaptable, too. No idea why they changed all characters and stories.

Skeleton Crew ended its first season. It seems unclear if there will be more, although I thought it was a limited series the entire time. For once, this show did not end on a cliffhanger. It is a Star Wars show set shortly after the fall of the Empire. It is supposed to be a kids show, but seems too violent for that imo. Still, it felt pretty safe somehow. It's four kids going on an adventure in space. The actors were good and definitely behaved like children, most of the time. Neel's character design is the cutest and I also like the design of Kh'ymm. I'd love to see these species again. Jude Law as the main adult character also did a great job. It feels like classic Star Wars. I liked it, but it doesn't feel groundbreaking.

Silo's second season also ended. I really like this show and I am considering reading the books (because I don't have enough on my to-read list already lol). The show has already been renewed for two more seasons, so I'm not mad that this season felt a bit like a transition. The finale gave us a really nice glimpse into S3 though which I am super excited about.

I thought it was a limited series the entire time.
I think this is how Skeleton Crew was marketed? Because I thought the same thing! And I agree with your comment about it being a good show, but not groundbreaking--though I believe we need that sometimes.

This article seems to imply otherwise? Although if the numbers aren't right, it'll probably go back to its limited series status.

though I believe we need that sometimes.
Absolutely! Streaming has definitely raised the stakes there. Networks would throw five procedurals at you and see what sticks. That's not really possible anymore. Shows have to create buzz and a strong immediate response.

Sighs. I wish some miniseries would stay miniseries. But if they do come back and do something entirely different, it might be fun? Kind of like an anthology series.

Same! I don't really see them returning with the same cast.

Star Wars: Skeleton Crew: I finished the season! It obviously left room for a continuation, but the main arc wrapped up quite nicely. I mostly like the kids and would die for Neel. Jude Law as Jod can get lost :B It did deliver what it promised: a good one season of a SW show targeted towards younger audiences.

The Pitt: I'm all caught up and am really loving the show format so far! I'm invested in a lot of patient cases and it's good to have the space for those subplots to develop. I'm kind of whatever about the doctors, though, with the big exception of one Dr. John Carter from ER.

American Primeval: started watching this because I heard some people were mad about it. Have seen around 4 or so episodes and it's very violent and gory. I appreciate all characters look dirty and stinky as hell, but I'm not sure if I'll continue since the blood and guts in this particular setting might be too much for me.

Goosebumps: The Vanishing: plant-related body horror warning! It's pretty cheesy so far despite the body horror parts that made me recoil. David Schiwmmer is in it, though, so I have to continue watching to see him out-act every teenager on this show.

Nosferatu (2024): WE LOVE THE GROSS AND HORNY VAMPIRE MOVIES! Loved cinematography, the music, the performances. Lily-Rose Depp really impressed me with her acting in the more tense/eerie scenes. Orlok can get it, but the mustache needs to go away--it was the grosses things in the entire movie.

I've been liking the format of The Pitt, too! I'm hooked already. And Noah Wyle is great in it.

He really is! I'm glad he went ahead with the idea of doing the show.

Glad to see The Pitt being mentioned! A few days ago, I wondered if I should post a preview.

I hear a lot of good things about Nosferatu, so I'll have to wait until I can watch it in OV. The "gross and horny" description makes me particularly curious. I love gross horror!

I'm really glad with how The Pitt is going and the old TV show vibes

Gross horror \o/ I highly recommend it since it's beautiful to watch :D

Eternal Butler: Looked into this one because it's BL involving a butler robot. (Hey, I happen to like BL, butlers, and robots!) Plus, Kevin Chang in suit and glasses is exactly my type. The little I saw of the acting in the first episode was pretty cringe but it seemed to get better later on. Not sure I will ever *not* skip through this one, but for now, it has my attention.

HPI: Haut Potentiel Intellectuel: Thanks again for the ARD Mediathek tip,

tinny! I watched three episodes this week (could be more if I ever figure out how to permanently add subtitles to videos), and I really enjoy Morgane as a protagonist. It certainly helps that Audrey Fleurot is gorgeous. I'm curious about how things will develop in the future but since two shows already have my heart at the moment, I am incapable of loving it as much as it probably deserves. (Those two shows are the next ones in this list!)

Love Scout: The romance scenes are absolutely swoon-worthy and I almost wish the entire drama would consist of the FL/ML storyline: Two attractive, competent, mature adults who cannot help falling for each other. She is the clumsy but highly competitive CEO of a headhunting company. He is the perfect fantasy of a single-father secretary who can smoothly manage his busy work and family life. It's chef's kiss. No notes. I am normally not super fond of TV children but the ML's daughter is very cute and her bonding scenes with the FL are such fun. I also like the 2ML and 2FL as well as their budding relationship.

What I like less: The overarching business storyline (it's watchable, but I prefer the cozy, relaxed vibe of the interpersonal scenes) and the hints of a traumatic past. Maybe the latter will be well-written but I am anxious that it will be used to sabotage a perfectly satisfying and well-developed romance arc when there are only four more episodes left.

If you require swooning, click me! (Gifs)

One Spring Night: I only started this show for Love Scout's female lead (Han Ji Min) and because it centers around a similar premise (a woman falling for a single dad). This show is more complicated, nuanced, and angsty than Love Scout. For one, our female lead doesn't start as a single woman. At least half of the show deals with her just breaking it off with her current partner since he is too prideful to accept that it is over between them (and that he has "lost" to a "flawed" person like the ML -- the "flaw" being ML's son).

I like the realism, the nuanced characterization, and the fleshed-out secondary characters. There's a good chance I will never watch another Jung Hae In drama simply because I find him utterly delectable in this one. I also really love the soundtrack. My favorite song says it beautifully: "I am tired of hiding how I feel. Every sign I see is telling me it's real." I would write a primer for this show but I feel I'd constantly have to repeat: "Please don't be frustrated, this makes a lot of sense if you factor in South Korean society!"

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Ooh, you're making me want to give One Spring Night another try. Note to self! Also, ha I didn't realise Love Scout was Han Ji Min. I enjoyed her so much in Capital Scandal...

Tbf, I really became aware of HJM in Love Scout even though I already enjoyed her in The Light in Your Eyes (then again, the true female star in that is Kim Hye Ja).

YMMV re: One Spring Night, but I just enjoy it as a breath of fresh air after so many flashy, dramatic K-romances. People work ordinary jobs and talk about things (even if conflicts take time to be resolved), and no endless, dramatic rich guy tantrums. Plus, I really, really like the ML here. Didn't get the Jung Hae In appeal before (even while watching Love Next Door where I found him cute) but this totally hits the spot for me!

Haha, I gave up on The Light in Your Eyes about six or eight episodes in. I can't remember if I actually watched the reveal or just learned about it afterwards, but it made me really mad. I was there for time travel, dammit! ;-p

but I just enjoy it as a breath of fresh air after so many flashy, dramatic K-romances.

*nodnod* That makes sense!

Didn't get the Jung Hae In appeal before (even while watching Love Next Door where I found him cute) but this totally hits the spot for me!

*nodnodnod* Love Next Door wasn't my favourite flavour of Jung Hae In, though he was fine in it. Have you seen Something in the Rain or While You Were Sleeping? The former made me lose my mind for weeks (though I wasn't super happy with the back quarter), and the latter is one of my favourite dramas of all time (JHI plays the second male lead, and he stole my heart).

I can't remember if I actually watched the reveal or just learned about it afterwards, but it made me really mad. I was there for time travel, dammit! ;-p

I don't think I had any particular feelings about the reveal. Just thought it was moving in combination with the recontextualization of Hye Ja's relationship with her father. However, I can understand the upset!

Have you seen Something in the Rain or While You Were Sleeping? The former made me lose my mind for weeks (though I wasn't super happy with the back quarter), and the latter is one of my favourite dramas of all time (JHI plays the second male lead, and he stole my heart).

Honestly, I have been reluctantly eyeing Something in the Rain for the past few days but the reviews make certain secondary characters sound horrendous. Is the OTP worth it?

Haven't seen While You Were Sleeping. Fantasy dramas are always a bit of a gamble. Even if I like the beginning, I rarely like the conclusion. I also feel a little ambivalent about Lee Jong Suk. While he's been fine in everything I've seen, I find him almost distractingly pretty in most stuff. His role in W (the only drama of his I've managed to finish) was therefore perfect for me simply because his character felt like a Gary Stu incarnate.

I feel like every second show featuring old people is about Alzheimer's, and I'm pretty DNW about it. (I stopped watching Navillera because of the memory loss.) So yeah.

Honestly, I have been reluctantly eyeing Something in the Rain for the past few days but the reviews make certain secondary characters sound horrendous. Is the OTP worth it?

The OTP is so good!!! (I actually stayed up too late last night rewatching some scenes.) The thing is, the show itself is a weird mash-up, with grinding workplace drama (like Misaeng or My Mister) as the setting, and a complicated romance kind of pasted into the middle of it. And the two parts don't really work super well together, and the unpleasantness of the workplace part never really gets resolved: the show is more about escape than reform. But it's ABSOLUTELY SO WORTH IT for the first 12 episodes, and it's a lot less cartoony than your average drama romance. More like the vibe of an indie film. I was watching it week by week as it came out, and I was obsessed.

Haven't seen While You Were Sleeping. Fantasy dramas are always a bit of a gamble. Even if I like the beginning, I rarely like the conclusion. I also feel a little ambivalent about Lee Jong Suk.

Absolutely fair on all counts! The highlight of WYWS for me is the threesome vibes (though the second lead remains the second lead, he doesn't get paired off with anyone else, and all three very clearly care about each other a lot). The fantasy part is more of a plot mechanic thing, and I like how it's handled, but obviously that's a personal preference.

Haha, I totally hear you about Lee Jong Suk. He's way too pretty, and I don't feel like he has a huge amount of range? I've seen a few of his dramas, but he's definitely not a draw for me. In WYWS, he plays new prosecutor who's a bit out of his depth and tends more dorky than cool, and that worked for me, but again, YMMV. :-)

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I have similar feelings re: Alzheimer's and Navillera. :/

The OTP is so good!!! (I actually stayed up too late last night rewatching some scenes.) The thing is, the show itself is a weird mash-up, with grinding workplace drama (like Misaeng or My Mister) as the setting, and a complicated romance kind of pasted into the middle of it.

I sometimes thought I'd loved My Mister to have a central romance. (No, I don't care about age gaps. Much.) I already watched the first couple of minutes but I don't think I can fully commit until either Love Scout has finished or I've completed One Spring Morning. JHI has such a cute smile. That's the way right into my heart.

The highlight of WYWS for me is the threesome vibes (though the second lead remains the second lead, he doesn't get paired off with anyone else, and all three very clearly care about each other a lot).

Sounds good! I might give it one or two episodes. I guess I'm still a little traumatized from I Can Hear Your Voice, also a legal-fantasy drama starring LJS. ;) But "threesome" and "dorky LJS" make me curious.

I really liked the emotional ambiguity of My Mister, and spent quite a lot of it chanting under my breath "don't get together! don't get together!" though I can enjoy post-canon ship fic.

but I don't think I can fully commit until either Love Scout has finished or I've completed One Spring Morning. JHI has such a cute smile.

Haha, entirely fair!

I guess I'm still a little traumatized from I Can Hear Your Voice, also a legal-fantasy drama starring LJS. ;)

LOL, man, that was so bad but so watchable! I guilty-pleasure re-watched it a year or two back, and yeah, still really bad. Have you seen Secret Garden? LJS as a sulky young gay indie musician. That was pretty great.

I really liked the emotional ambiguity of My Mister, and spent quite a lot of it chanting under my breath "don't get together! don't get together!"

I mean, I'm not greedy. It was a warm, loving relationship with amazing chemistry between the leads, and that was enough for me. But would I've watched a romance with them? Yes! Simply because these were two talented, attractive actors. (That said, I remember the Jang Hyuk/Park So Dam pairing in Beautiful Mind feeling a little weird, even though that was probably the least of this show's problems. It was a similar IRL age difference but with fewer interpersonal complications, afair.)

though I can enjoy post-canon ship fic.

Did you see anything worth reccing?

Have you seen Secret Garden?

Never finished it! It's one of the reasons why I never got into Hyun Bin (or why I watched way too many dramas starring Yoon Sang Hyun, expecting him to be the ML when he was only 2ML).

I haven't seen Beautiful Mind. Would you rec it?

And I haven't read much My Mister fic, but I saw this in Yuletide and liked it.

I found Hyun Bin's character in Secret Garden incredibly annoying and objectionable, but equally, I adored Ha Ji-Won. I fell for her in the first episode, because this:

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And I hung in there for the bodyswap, because bodyswap. But yeah, I totally get what you mean.

Overall, I wouldn't rec it. I liked the workplace comedy elements and the OTP, but I remember the story (including the ML's medical issues) being more than just a little messy. That wasn't helped when they cut the drama down from 16 to 14 episodes.

Thanks for the rec!

I loved that HJW's character was a stunt woman, but I felt she was way too good for the annoying ML. M/F bodyswap always holds lots of potential but either it works for me or it doesn't. In this case, it mostly didn't simply because I disliked HB's character too much.

I'm totally happy to wait until you're done with your Han Ji Min dramas to continue HPI. :D Or watch it slowly - the romance there takes a while to develop anyway. ;)

(Also of course the stupid Mediathek actually did throw out the first three seasons this morning and didn't renew them. They might come back, who knows... but for now, they're not there.)

Plus, of course Love Scout sounds awesome! I'm also never a fan of children, but if someone who also thinks so recs it anyway, it makes me curious. And I love shows with strong female characters (her being the CEO, I think that qualifies). It goes on my (already very long) list!

I'm totally happy to wait until you're done with your Han Ji Min dramas to continue HPI. :D Or watch it slowly - the romance there takes a while to develop anyway. ;)
The next Jung Hae In drama is already around the corner! :P I will probably watch HIP slowly because I'm currently incapable of binging anything darker than your typical slice-of-life fare. (...unless I happen to develop the biggest crush on somebody.)

I've got all the episodes downloaded! But the Mediathek was convenient to watch online during my commute.

I like the kid because she's a bit of a smartass, much like the FL. The FL is definitely a strong woman. She's shouldered a lot in her past. I think the ML helps her to let go of some of her burdens because he takes care of her in ways she's incapable of caring for herself.

I can't remember when I last checked in, oops.

We watched the first two seasons of The Morning Show. Season 1 was outstanding, hilarious in some parts, super distressing in others, so good. Season 2 was a hot mess and just kind of bumbled along. The ending didn't work for me at alllll. We've given up on it. (Unless anyone strongly recs season 3?)

The first episode or two of Bad Sisters season 2, but the new Designated Awful Character is just so gratuitously awful. (I love Fiona Shaw, but omg.) So we turned to Shrinking instead, and are now some way into season 2 and liking it a lot. Flawed people trying to live good lives and complicated friendships are both totally my jam. (No spoilers, please, including casting spoilers!)

In Kdramas, I finished A Virtuous Business which didn't have the strongest ending but was overall lovely, and have just started Motel California, about a woman discriminated against for her mixed heritage and motel-dwelling background, and her childhood sweetheart who she left behind in their small hometown. Three episodes in, I like it a lot. (Warning for an unfortunate fat suit.)

I've re-upped my VIKI subscription, so I suspect if I run out of Motel California episodes, I'll start in on Love Scout, since lots of people seem to be loving it.

I adore Love Scout so much, and I sincerely hope it will stick the landing! (If all else fails, you can always just enjoy the pretty faces.)

I'm looking forward to it! I need more drama-watching time. :-D

(I'm avoiding your comments about it above because once I've decided to watch something, I generally don't want too many spoilers. But I'm so glad you're enjoying it!)

(I'm avoiding your comments about it above because once I've decided to watch something, I generally don't want too many spoilers.)
Noted! I will keep semi-spoilery stuff under a cut next time just to ensure I don't say too much.

Btw, without spoiling anything specific, what was disappointing about the ending of A Virtuous Business?

Thanks! ♥ And don't worry too much about cutting on my account -- I'm pretty good at skimming when I need to. :-)

A Virtuous Business wasn't disappointing so much as it lost some narrative tension. A few things got resolved too quickly/easily, and some stuff was a bit rushed. Overall I really liked it.

Unless anyone strongly recs season 3?

I... don't really remember much of seasons 1 and 2 because I watched them eons ago, but season 2 was the Covid season, right? I can't remember at all how it ended so not sure what you're referencing, but I liked the season well enough -- at least for acknowledging that Covid was/is a thing. I think I quite enjoyed season 3, but again, my memory is hazy on what the actual plot was. But I'm pretty sure I liked it. Not sure that's a strong enough recommendation for you!

I'm not even bothering with season 2 of Bad Sisters, simply because I didn't read a single good review of it. That was enough for me!

Yeah, season 2 was set in early 2020, and to be fair, it's possible some of my reaction was because New Zealand handled things differently (and also I've forgotten how long it took for masks to become a thing). But also, the lack of an obvious season arc didn't work for me. Hm.

I don't tend to read reviews, so I haven't heard much about Bad Sisters s2 one way or the other. I loved season 1, so if it's not great, that's such a shame. But also, season 1 had such good structure, and like with The Morning Show, season 2 feels more loose and rambly (from the little I watched).

The first Bad Sisters was an adaptation of a Belgian limited series, so only one "season". I've not seen the Belgian original, but reading the episode summaries on Wiki, sounds like season 1 of Bad Sisters followed it almost to a T. Even a lot of the character names were the same. I don't know if the plan for Bad Sister was also just a limited series, or if they'd planned to do subsequent series from the start, but either way, they had no source material to go with for season 2, and that doesn't always go very well.

Ohhh, I think I heard that about season 1, but I'd forgotten. Sometimes limited series really should just stay limited! ;-p

Viewing was all over the place these last two weeks as we dropped YouTube TV and picked up PBS and Paramount+, so there's now baskets of new things to try.

On Roku watched Tina and Bobby, which was somewhat interesting in that it was the story of a sports star told mostly from the viewpoint of his wife (whose memoir it was). There were various details that highlighted how poorly athletes faired then compared to now.

Finished off Skeleton Crew and found its ending poorly executed and somewhat hanging since a S2 seems unlikely.

Continued with another few episodes of The Suspicions of Mr Wicher via Hulu, which I continue to find uninteresting from a mystery standpoint, but at least got an episode with Olivia Coleman who is always a pleasure to watch.

Watched several more episodes Catch 22, also on Hulu, which is more depressing than anything else.

Finished up Damages which remains an interesting sort of show as it is a legal thriller with a developing mystery each season.

Started Invitation to a Murder which is surprising mostly in its cast. I hardly recognized Mischa Barton, but as she had the main role and Seamus Deaver was also in it, it seemed like a surprisingly American production of what was set up to be a period English murder mystery. It seemed to me like it was shot in the U.S. as well.

Also on Hulu watched the miniseries Balenciaga. It was interesting to see Dior and Chanel show up again in different forms. The story otherwise was not that enlightening, though it gave a fairly good representation of the man himself.

Still making our way through Moonlighting S2 which holds up pretty poorly compared to its 80s counterparts like L.A. Law, which I started watching for the first time these last few weeks. I found it particularly remarkable that this was a show which wanted to explore existing relationships, something that remains uncommon. It had the main two pairings moving in with one another before the 1st season was half over!

Speaking of L.A. Law, I also tried out several episodes of Boston Legal. It was an interesting comparison -- two legal firms in two major cities, but several decades apart and very different showrunners. L.A. Law has much more focus on the cases and less on buffoonery. That said I have just finished its first season and so have much more of Boston to watch, but I also appreciate that on L.A. Law they don't have female lawyers in ridiculous clothing that does anything but scream "I am a professional."

I watched the Lucy Worsley documentary on Agatha Christie which several people recommended. Despite having seen several already (and pretty sure I read either her autobiography or another biography in the past) I did think there were things she delved into here that had not been explored before, mostly in showing how Christie was an unreliable narrator of her own life.

Also watched the Ken Burns documentary on the Mayo Clinic. It was very interesting from a historical standpoint but its more modern aspects about health care are pretty infuriating -- not in the sense of reflecting badly on Mayo but more on how terribly unequal healthcare is.

Tenho assistido as telenovelas brasileiras "Garota do Momento", "Volta por Cima" e "Cabocla", além da série de comédia brasileira "Tapas & Beijos" da atriz indicada ao Oscar Fernanda Torres.

De conteúdo internacional, estou atualmente dedicando meu tempo a Smallville e Grimm (o primeiro dublado e o segundo legendado).

Out of curiosity: Do you prefer dubbing or subtitles for international shows? Or do both have their advantages and disadvantages for you?

Não tenho preferência fixa. Como não sei nada inglês, dublagem é uma boa pedida, mas às vezes algumas mídias só possuem versões legendadas (nem tudo que chega ao Brasil é dublado ou tem versão dublada disponível online por questões de Copyright).

A dublagem tem a vantagem de facilitar o entendimento do conteúdo mais rapidamente, fazer com que se eu esteja longe da tela compreenda o que se passa caso precise pegar água ou comida e etc. Ao exemplo que citei, Smallville eu vejo dublado e com legendas para auxílio, notei então que muitas referências são removidas da dublagem por não serem de amplo conhecimento no Brasil. Facilita é claro, mas também pode atrapalhar às vezes.

A legenda tem a vantagem de ser mais fiel ao original, ajudando assim quando determinado assunto da mídia tem alguma questão complexa. Grimm estou vendo legendado porque me lembro que a dublagem da série na televisão não me agradou muito na época e como há muitas questões com idiomas diferentes na trama devido a origem germânica do contexto preferi dar foco no áudio original, com legendas.

A desvantagem é que às vezes a dublagem e a própria versão legendada erram em alguns pontos, já vi nomes masculinos serem referidos como femininos porque o responsável pelo texto somente traduziu sem compreender o contexto da obra.

Se eu tiver condições obviamente verei dublado o conteúdo facilitador de vidas e recurso de acessibilidade incrível , mas se às vezes não quero ninguém me incomodando vejo legendado já que meus parentes não conseguem acompanhar legendas, o que evita que eles intrometam na minha experiência e fiquem de penetra assistindo algo que eu quero privacidade.

That's interesting about the missing references in the Smallville dubbing. I suspect it's pop culture stuff or other details that simply do not work for a Brazilian audience. I've encountered similar things in Germany. The translators usually substituted certain elements within the dialogue with something the audience here would be more familiar with. I've often even preferred the translators' jokes to the original ones.

Não, na verdade nem é questões sobre cultura pop porque diferente do que se possa imaginar o Brasil entende bastante disso. Somos contemporâneos, memes e referências são conosco. O que foi mais apagado eram referências a eventos específicos como Martin Guerre, alusões a personagens históricos datados e coisa do tipo. A gente sabe o que é fazer a Wynona na Sacks então achei estranho eles reformularam tanto alguns trechos. Mas em defesa da dublagem brasileira que é considerada uma das melhores no mundo, muitas vezes o texto passa por reescrita para melhor caber ao movimento da boca do personagem que fala em um tempo diferente. Imagine ouvir a pessoa falando cinco palavras e a boca mexer como se fossem sete ou três? A dublagem corrige o texto para se adequar, mas não acho que eles suprimiram por ser algo da cultura pop. A gente entende disso. Agora sobre ser possivelmente sobre detalhes que não funcionam eu concordo. Piadas sempre devem ser traduzidas isso eu concordo e muito, nem sempre alguma gracinha de determinado período ou nicho vá calhar em outro ambiente. Podemos sempre rir de um mico que se tornou viral, mas se ele fez sucesso só em um determinado estado/espaço fica difícil manter o mesmo carisma. Por exemplo, aqui no Brasil a tradução de Moana 2 usou tantos memes engraçados da época que os jovens de agora estão revoltados por que não entendem que foi algo referente ao momento e para fazer graça, ainda mais que foram termos icônicos da internet à tv.

Thanks for the explanation!

Okay, so lets see if I remember what I watched those last two weeks.

I still haven't been able to let go of HPI, so I rewatched a ton of that, a) to make screencaps and icons, and b) to write up my review post (still ongoing, this is going to get so long omg). I don't regret a thing! I got my hands on a few more things that Mehdi Nebbou and Audrey Fleurot have done, but still couldn't find the things of theirs I was actually looking for, and haven't really watched the ones I have.

The watchalongs chugged along - two eps of Bridgerton s3, two to go. And two eps of Parallel World, 16 to go, and we're mostly just sighing at each other over the terrible romance-adjacent storylines and the otherwise seemingly randomly meandering plot. Oof. We have nothing better to watch together at the moment, though.

Two movies: Wild Robot, which I loved. I always love robots, and this one has a wonderful storyline of love and helping each other. It had a few logic flaws, but nothing too terrible (one was that all the animals spoke a common language that the robot was then able to learn. Eh, no). But overall I really enjoyed it, and I totally did not recognize Kit Connor's voice. (His American accent was good, too.)

Peter Dinklage and Josh Brolin as twin Brothers with a family history of crime - also starring Brendan Fraser and Glenn Close. It was very very absurd, and I liked it a lot! The characters reminded me a bit of a Fish Called Wanda. My fave scene was the golf carts vs excavator chase. :D

In my attempt to immerse myself in more French, I started Dix Pour Cent (Call My Agent) on Netflix, because other members of this comm recced it to me. It's about a Parisian talent agency. I was fully expecting not to know a single one of the French actors who star as themselves (a different one each episode), but then Audrey Fleurot turns up in ep 4! LOL! I like it so far - the characters are all distinctive, if not all eminently likeable. But likeable enough for now. I'll keep watching.

The other thing that turned up in my youtube recs (probably because I was searching for French interviews etc), is Paul Taylor's new(ish) program, BisouBye. If you don't know Paul Taylor, he does bilingual standup comedy - in French and English (both parts subtitled in the other language). It's brilliant! I didn't like his second program much, it was a bit too mean for my taste, but the first one is good, and BisouBye also looks good. I've only seen the first half, but enjoyed it immensely. You can watch the full show on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap963rYkqmA

As for my cdrama queue, I should be starting Under the Skin II, and finish First Note of Love, but I still haven't done so. Ridiculously, I started skimming through another cdrama instead that I randomly stumbled across in the viki ads: Everlasting Longing, a period drama starring Angelababy crossdressing as a merchant son, and Song Weilong as a foreign prince and her love interest. It promises to be terrible, but omg they're all wearing those beautiful hair ornaments. Not the usual metal Ming things, but beads and animal teeth and feathers. I assume their goal was to make them look "Barbarian", and I did not expect to love that look so much! I don't need another terrible cdrama. /o\

Ooh, Brothers sounds really fun. You got me with the Fish Called Wanda comparison. Is it streaming?

Yes! It's included for free in my Prime - supposedly that's true worldwide.

Oh cool, thanks! :-)

In my attempt to immerse myself in more French,

If you ever need more French TV recs, hit me up! 🤓 (I watched Dix Pour Cent on Prime where it was only dubbed in German. Never finished it because I couldn't get over a certain plot point.)

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