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Justified: Home Base

This is the home base for Justified!
Let's talk about this awesome show!

The Primer for this show is here...

The fifth season began on Feb 7, 2014.
It airs Tuesdays 10pm EST in the US on FX

Episodes already aired:

5x01: A Murder of Crowes [Originally aired Jan. 7, 2014]
5x02: The Kids Aren't All Right [Originally aired Jan. 14, 2014]
5x03: Good Intentions [Originally aired Jan. 21, 2014]
5x04: Over the Mountain [Originally aired Jan. 28 2014]
5x05: Shot All to Hell [Originally aired Feb 4. 2014]
5x06: Kill the Messenger [Originally aired Feb. 11 2014]
5x07: Raw Deal [Originally aired Feb 25, 2014]
5x08: Whistle Past the Graveyard [Originally aired March 4, 2014]
5x09: Wrong Roads [Originally aired March 11, 2014]
5x10: Weight [Originally aired March 18, 2014]
5x11: The Toll [Originally aired March 25, 2014]
5x12: Starvation [Originally aired April 1, 2014]
5x13:Restitution [Originally aired April 8, 2014] Season Finale

There is a general discussion thread too! Want to talk about the show in general?
Previous seasons etc. This is the place to do it.

-A new comment will be posted for each new episode.

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Originally aired January 7, 2014

-This episode opens up the fifth season by taking both Raylan and Boyd out of Kentucky for a bit (but not together).

-We're also introduced to a new set of outlaws with a connection to a very familiar character.

Did anyone watch?
What did you think about the episode?

I wrote up a reaction post to this episode after watching it last week. You can check it out here if you feel inclined.
There are a lot of spoilers for this episode in that post, so be warned.

I really loved having Dewey Crowe back. His scenes were so funny. I can't believe he bought Audrey's. I'm interested in seeing how everything develops when those other members of the Crowe clan show up in Harlan.

I felt the episode was a little slow. It seemed very much a set up episode, which makes sense since it is setting things up for some new outlaws for Raylan to tangle with.

I'm not sure how I feel about the other Crowes yet. The ones still living anyways. For me it's going to be hard for any family to measure up to the Bennett clan.

I was sad about Raylan's lack of interest in his daughter and how he didn't even visit when he was in Florida.

I think this is going to be a really dark season for Boyd, which should be interesting. I don't think he does well at all without Ava.

I haven't gotten the chance to watch this week's episode yet.
I'll be watching it tonight and writing something up after that.

Did anyone else watch?
What did you think?
Feel free to jump in anytime!

Edited 2014-01-15 19:20 (UTC)

I finally got to watch the episode! I really enjoyed this week's a lot more than last week's. It was really nice seeing Loretta again. I really like her character.

Things aren't looking too good for Boyd right now, are they? If he ends up in jail who's going to help Ava? I miss Ava being a bigger part of the show and Boyd seems kind of lost without her.

Anyone else creeped out by the poprocks bj thing? Is that a thing? I had to check the internet and I guess it is.

Anyone worried about Art looking deeper into Nicky Augustine's death and Sammy Tonin's involvement in it because of Sammy's call to Raylan shortly before his death?

I wrote up a long reaction post over here. Spoilers abound, so be warned.

Loretta!!!! <333

Despite the violence and fact that everything always seems to go to shit for everyone, the characters and how they're portrayed in this show are some of the best in television.

I'm actually going to feel sorry for Dewey at some point, aren't I? (LOL)

Dewey! ha poor Dewey. Yep, he is definitely cursed by the gods ;)

I should have put this is first, but better late than never!

Want to talk about previous seasons? The show in general? Comment here!

Favorite characters?
Favorite season so far?
Favorite bad guys?

BOYD! Boyd is my favorite and I really really wanna write a 'what if' fic, where Aunt Helen never took Raylan in and he ends up joining the rangers in Kuwait, and comes home and inherits the Givens' criminal empire and expands it, and he's still Boyd's nemesis, and still a shitkicker, and he knows Gutterson, but Gutterson is still a Marshall. :D :D :D

I love Boyd! I didn't at first but he won me over by the end of the first season. That fic idea is awesome! I would totally read that :D

Originally aired January 21, 2014.

I have yet to watch this episode. Has anyone else seen it yet?
What did you think?

I'll jump back in sometime tomorrow after I see it!

I just watched the episode and haven't had the chance to write up a full reaction post yet but I wanted to mention some things here first.

Raylan's relationship choices seem to be getting more and more ill-advised. Does he not realize this or does he just not care? I'm really thinking Allison is a bad idea for him.

I'm sad but not surprised that things seem rocky for Ava and Boyd. I miss Ava, I hate only getting these tiny glimpses of her in prison.

That Monroe guy (I didn't realize he was being played by Xander Berkeley at first either only that he looked familiar) is super creepy. Damn.

I liked Raylan's interaction with Duffy, that was fun. I also loved Boyd's little motivation speech that he gave to poor Dewey.

The scene with Mara and Boyd and her checking out his tattoos...what the hell? How exactly is this getting Ava out of prison and why hasn't Boyd told Ava that Paxton isn't actually dead? She seems to still think he is.

But the end bit where we find out who's been snatching Boyd's shipments? That was awesome! I didn't expect it to be Johnny at all. I missed Johnny, this looks like he'll be back soon :)

Oh, I also loved how Art sent Rachel along to babysit Raylan at the house. That was cute. And sadly necessary.

I loved Boyd's speech to Dewey. Basically I just love Boyd: he's Raylan's dark double. And Raylan's really blurring the lines already this year.

I'm convinced they keep Duffy alive just because they love that actor. And I do, too, he's a great foil.

OH and yes, the scene with the tattoos! GoodNESS.

I was wondering what had happened to Johnny! Wow, he's such a punk.

What did everyone think?

I'll be watching this tomorrow and will come back and comment then :)

I finally got a chance to watch this! I was so happy to have a scene with Boyd and Raylan together (and Tim too!). I liked seeing Danny Strong in this too. I had heard that he'd be guesting. When Ava said the stormtrooper line to him...LOL.

I liked seeing Johnny too. He's not going to play nice with Boyd at all is he? What is with all the Crowder men wanting Ava? Ava's awesome but still. I'm worried that Boyd isn't going to be able to get her out of jail. I also didn't like that he didn't even say goodbye to her after the meeting with Johnny.

I kind of felt bad for Messer. Dewey couldn't even give him a quick death.

And Art really needs to stop looking into that stuff with Raylan and Nicky Augustine, it isn't going to lead anywhere good. He needs to let it go. He doesn't want to really know.

My longer reaction post(with spoilers) is here...

OT3!! Boyd/Raylon/Tim!

I was really surprised that Messer ate it. Even more surprised that he was a CI. Oh Dewey Dewey Dewey.

At the end of the episode before this I was pretty sure that Messer was a dead man but in the beginning of this episode when Dewey messed up I thought that maybe, just maybe he would make it. Alas, no. I was surprised that he was a CI but once we found out I wasn't all that surprised that Boyd knew and was using him to spread false info.

Did you notice that Boyd and Tim were playing scrabble when Raylan got back? I didn't even notice until I read an interview with Jacob Pitts (Tim) and had to go back and watch the scene over again.

I didn't see that! haha that's so great. God, I am sorely tempted to write a fic where Boyd and Tim reflect on Raylan in his absence. Typical, I find a plot bunny in a fandom that doesn't exist.

I love that idea, I would read that :)

This is the thread for discussing episode 5x05 "Shot All To Hell"
Isn't that an ominous sounding title?
I'll chime in tomorrow after I get a chance to watch.

OMG! This episode!!!

Boyd did it, he fixed it. He was awesome and I knew when him and Ava were planning the next day, that it didn't matter. That horrible guard ruined it all. And now Ava won't be under protection and I have no idea what sort of time she could end up doing for this and I don't know if Boyd can help her with this at all. I'm so sad for them.

Johnny!!! I was so proud of him being smart and planning ahead (even though it was against Boyd who I love) But seriously he surprised me. I guess he really has learned for experience.

Alan Tudyk and Danny Strong in the same episode! Art being awesome! So many awesome things in this episode. And so many sad things.

Is Raylan really going to confess to Art? Is he crazy?

Dewey having an existential crisis, all the other Crowes being so horrible. They really need to go. Boyd needs to do something about them.

I loved how they ended up wrapping up the Theo Tonin thing with this episode too. That was cool. And got rid of Mooney the horrible Sheriff.

long reaction post is here...

This is the thread for episode 5x06 "Kill The Messenger"

Comment away....

I haven't written up a full reaction post yet but I wanted to write a few things here first.
Poor Ava. This really sucks for her and Boyd has her hands full.
Just when I was getting tired of the Crowes they team up with Boyd and become less boring.
They're still not Bennetts but I'm not sure if any family can top Mags Bennett and her boys, really.
Now that the Crowes actually have someone smart to follow they may make it further into the season.

It's really sad that Boyd not being a racist dickhead anymore is biting him in the ass.
Boyd's man Carl and Danny Crowe...and the whole "safe word" thing? OMG!!! That was awesome.

Raylan was a dick to Rachel but he apologized, I was glad about that.
And Art punching Raylan! So, Raylan must have told him the truth. No idea what Art is going to do in the long run with this information.

And now Boyd wants the Crowe family's help in killing Johnny. :(
I mean I want Boyd to live but I don't want Johnny to die either.

Oh and no new episode next week it seems :(

What did you think of the episode?
I'll be back tomorrow with my thoughts after I watch it :)

So this episode was called "Raw Deal" because it's the everything sucks for everyone episode? Damn.
There were some really funny bits especially with the computer guy but in general it was bad time for everyone. Not horribly bad but the bad that happens to set up the shitstorm afterwards.

Well except for Johnny. Johnny's day was horribly bad. And those guys that Danny Crowe shot. I don't think they pulled at all, did they? What the hell is wrong with him? Even Daryl was looking at him like there was something seriously wrong with his brother.

Is Johnny really dead? Dammit. He's survived a gunshot before but I don't think it's gonna happen out here in the desert. Oh Johnny, I'm going to miss you so much :( You shouldn't have screwed over Boyd though.

And Ava? That wasn't smart at all. I understand why she did it but it wasn't a good move.

Raylan wants a transfer and he's going to take a vacation first and actually see his kid? I'll believe it when I see it.

Tim was extra snarky, wasn't he? I loved getting Tim and Rachel in the same episode!

Oh and the whole thing with the computer guy telling Raylan that no, the technology for replying to posts was decades away. That was awesome. And then Raylan stupidly replying to the blog post.

Allison's bad shit was a two week suspension, given what's going on with the rest of the characters, I'd say she got off light. So far at least.

RIP Johnny Crowder.

Edited 2014-02-27 05:41 (UTC)

Any thoughts?
I'll check in after I get a chance to catch it tomorrow :)

Well it looks like Johnny is well and truly dead. Unless he was alive under all those bodies and the police get him help so he can turn on everyone, but honestly I doubt it. Sure he survived that gut wound way back when, but what are the odds of him pulling that kind of thing off again? I can dream though, right? Poor Johnny.

Looks like both Boyd and Ava may make it out okay as look as Boyd outsmarts the Crowes and makes it back with the drugs as his.

I like how Jimmy seems to speak at least some Spanish.

I liked the twist that Kendal is Wendy's son not brother. So sad. He knew too, because he seem to be the only not stupid member of the Crowes. Well, Wendy's not really stupid. Just limited in what she allows her life to be I guess. And "Uncle Jack" wasn't Kendal's uncle at all but his dad. The actor they picked to play that guy made me thing he might be Kendal's dad before the reveal happened as well as the way he and Wendy spoke to each other...so that was a good choice.

Allison's reaction to Raylan not wanting to help Kendal because he didn't care unless something was in it for him was perfect and I think one of the reason he agreed to help. That and for information he didn't end up getting. She didn't even tell him Boyd was involved, which she was privy to I believe.

Raylan did get that guy from the previous episode to teach him how to win radio shows. Damn. I like that he gave that money to kendal. For a moment he saw a bit of himself in the kid. It was sweet but not enough to make Allison stick around, and I don't really blame her.

Good episode. Less deadly than I feared. Still love this show.

I can't believe Johnny is dead! Noooooo

and oh boy, I can't believe they made me WANT for Boyd to make it back with the drugs. If Ava doesn't get a supply in, she's toast. CLEVER SHOW

Yeah, it's interesting that Raylan took ill gotten gains from the guy with the computer skills. I'm surprised, and I really hope this isn't the first indication of a downward spiral. I wonder what will happen now, with the social worker out of the picture. Does he have any reason to stop edging over to the dark side?

I'm only a little surprised that Raylan took ill-gotten gains. It's easy to justify. It's just radio contest winnings. It isn't hurting anyone and someone is going to win anyways, why not him? I think that would be easy for him to rationalize. It kind of pales in comparison with essentially arranging Nicky Augustine's death. Which I think was entirely justified. He wanted/needed to protect his family. But as a lawman he did something that he shouldn't have done, being on suspension at the time doesn't give him a free pass on that.
I think his downward spiral kind of inevitable at this point really, and maybe it always was. That coming back to Harlan was the beginning of the end.

That coming back to Harlan was the beginning of the end. WAIL SAY IT AIN'T SOOOOO

I could be wrong. Maybe he'll get a happy ending :)
It would be nice if someone on this show did, but I suspect it may not be that kind of show.

Here's the thread for 5x09.

Thoughts? Feelings? Etc...

So, it seems Johnny is totally really completely dead since his was one of the bodies mentioned. Bummer. I was holding out a tiny bit of hope...

Raylan really doesn't know how to take a vacation does he?

Things don't seem to be going well for Ava and Boyd at all. Ava is really screwed at this point I think. Unless her or Boyd can pull off some sort of miracle. She didn't actually do the thing that landed her in her current prison but if she starts moving drugs and kills another prisoner on top of that she's completely screwed. She needs to have Boyd kill her out on the outside or something, yet she'd be out of someone to bring the drugs in then. :(

Hot Rod is dead, that was kind of sad too. Damn. And Dewey is totally freaking out.

I really loved the "a united nations of assholes" bit. That was funny. Miller and Raylan were kind of fun together.

Here's the thread for 5x10

Thoughts? Feelings? Etc...

Dickie Bennett!!! I was happy to see him again even though it wasn't actually needed for the plot. It was still cool :)

I feel bad for that dog :( Poor doggie. I almost felt bad for the idiot owner too. Almost. But damn the way Danny bought it, falling into that hole and onto his own knife? Wow. That's kind of how I expect Dewey to end up but I think Dewey is actually smarter than Danny. He's still alive, at least for now anyways. Of course even if Danny hadn't fell into the hole he'd still be dead. Raylan's too quick of a draw and had his gone out by the time the idiot fell into the hole.

I really wish Kendal had told Allison about how Danny had killed that guy so she wouldn't have sent him back with his horrible family. I can't believe how Daryl was beating on his sister. I didn't know I could have hated him any more, but I do.

And now I'll talk about how Ava broke my heart. Damn. She even tried to get out of killing that woman and it didn't work and she had to kill or be killed. And how is she supposed to get the drugs now? She broke up with Boyd, and that broke my heart. What the hell? To protect him? Bullshit. And then he let that nasty guard go. Which was probably for the best but damn.

Everything is going to go very badly for everyone, isn't it?

I'm so sad about Ava and Boyd. I'm sad that Johnny is dead, Dewey is on the run, Art is still mad at Raylan, everyone seems to be in danger. And only what, three episodes left of the season? And next season is the end!

What did everyone think of the episode?

So much happened in this episode!
I knew something bad was going to happen to Art when he decided to go watch Allison on his own.
Whatever happened to wearing a vest, dammit? I really hope Art doesn't die.

So Daryl Crowe is an even bigger ass than I thought. Putting Kendal up to confessing to shooting Art.

I was wondering what was up with up with Boyd taking up smoking. That scene where he blew up Picker was awesome!

I loved how Rachel is the interim Chief, and how surprised she was. Possibly horrified. Like she wants to be in charge of trying to Raylan.

So, is the ice cream for Ava a thank you? Or a eat up and enjoy your last meal thing? Hopefully a thank you and hopefully Boyd will come through with the drugs for her (odd to wish for something like that, but still...).

I hope Raylan calls Boyd and tells him where Daryl Crowe is.

Thoughts, feelings, etc...

Oh man, poor Ava.
I feel bad for her that Boyd didn't even try asking for her release but then again she did break up with him. After all he did for her too. He killed for her. And then she was about to make a deal with Raylan to get back with Boyd so she could convince him to help Raylan. That is kind of crappy, she was willing to get back with him so she could use him? Of course then she found out that he was already working with Raylan and hadn't asked for her release at all. Harsh.

Loved that Boyd brought up Nicky Augustine's death but also loved that Tim and Rachel backed Raylan up. Of course now they probably know why Art's been so pissed at him.

Oh man...Dewey Crowe...looks like he's going to prison.

Raylan's plan to get Daryl is having them charge Kendal as an adult? Harsh, and something that is going to be really bad if it doesn't work. Maybe Art will wake up and be able to actually tell them who shot him.

Things don't look so good for Boyd. Or for Ava, never mind them as a couple.

Season Finale time!

What did you think?

Art lives! And poor Jimmy the bartender dies :(
On the plus side, Rachel and Tim got a lot more screen time than usual.
I'm glad Tim was just banged up with the car accident and not seriously hurt.

I like how Boyd got out of his predicament by using the Marshals. I'm amazed that all these criminals never seem to think that the marshals are going to shoot them, until it's too late.

Daryl did in fact shoot Art, and Wendy got him to confess and then shot him in the balls while Raylan just watched, and then she had to shoot him again. That was kind of awesome. And Raylan leaning over him and telling him how he said he was going to wish he had killed him...wow!

I like how Raylan vouched for Wendy with the shooting being self-defense.

So, Raylan was all set to go off to Florida and be with his family and then they dangled the carrot of finally catching Boyd in front of him. Wow. Rico act too.

I knew as soon as Ava was being released that she had made a deal. I don't blame her mind you, but damn.

I think the last season is going to be coming around full circle to the beginning. Looks like Boyd's going back to bank robbing and Raylan will be after him yet again.

I also think it may end the way it was originally supposed to end with the pilot in the spirit of coming full circle and honoring Elmore Leonard's original story.

Good season. It had some rough spots in my opinion and I didn't find the Crowe's to be that interesting as the the seasons 'big bad' but it was good.

I'll be sad when the show comes to a close but I'm interested in seeing how they end it.

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Episode 5.02: The Kids Aren't All Right

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Episode 5x03: Good Intentions

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Episode 5x04: Over the Mountain

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Episode 5x05: Shot All To Hell

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Episode 5x06: Kill The Messenger

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Episode 5x07: Raw Deal

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Episode 5x08: Whistle Past the Graveyard

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Episode 5x09: Wrong Roads

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Episode 5x10: Weight

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Episode 5x11: The Toll

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Episode 5x12: Starvation

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Episode: 5x13: "Restitution"

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