It's weird that I spent 11.5 episodes wondering if the nature of Dean's transgressions, and their impetus were even being understood by Carver et al. Irrespective of whether or not Dean did it for 'the right' reasons or whatever else, the issue of there even being an issue of consent for Sam was concerning to me. SO that's awesome, now that it's out in the open.
AMEN. I wanted to hope they were going to address it, but I try not to get my hopes up too high - that way lies lots of heartache.
Dean is highly feminized in this episode, again.
Yup. *nods along* I don't mind, I find. I find it interesting, particularly because he's the one who's always playing so macho. It amuses me to see him feminized. Why is it we get naked Jared every year (or at least shirtless) and he's objectified, but Dean (played by the generally accepted more handsome Jensen) is never objectified in that way? Do we ever get shirtless Jensen? We haven't in years. Nor even pajamas - I guess there was the Men of Letters robe that one time, but it covers pretty much his whole body. It's an interesting dynamic.
Also, yeah, Jared did a really good job in the last scene. He outshone Jensen, even, which is an interesting switch.
He did, though I'm willing to put this on direction, a bit. Or show running. I think because Dean is still lying to himself, Dean couldn't actually react to things Sam was saying with honesty, with regret and sorrow and all those beautiful things that we will eventually see. When he's having to play denial and disbelief, there's a lot less for Jensen to work with. It was meant to be Sam's moment, anyway, really - he's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO angry, and he's taking it out on Dean, and we're meant to feel that something fierce. We have to feel it because we're NOT lying to ourselves, we KNOW Dean fucked up, and is still fucking up, and we feel for him, because we know it's going to be a while before he hits rock bottom yet.
And while the thing about grayish shades between monsters and humans has also been done in past seasons (and obviously they are gearing up to let Crowley live. This lady and Garth as a werewolf. Where else can it be going?)
True - and they love Mark Sheppard, so I imagine he'll be hanging around as long as possible. But I wish they'd more fully addressed this earlier - they seem to have absolutely no qualms about killing demons anymore, without exorcising or even trying to save the humans. It's a little frustrating. I'm with them trying to make more of an effort to not kill things that aren't evil, though. Dean only gets "kill all the things" when he's in a downward spiral.
Re: 9x13 - The Purge
AMEN. I wanted to hope they were going to address it, but I try not to get my hopes up too high - that way lies lots of heartache.
Dean is highly feminized in this episode, again.
Yup. *nods along* I don't mind, I find. I find it interesting, particularly because he's the one who's always playing so macho. It amuses me to see him feminized. Why is it we get naked Jared every year (or at least shirtless) and he's objectified, but Dean (played by the generally accepted more handsome Jensen) is never objectified in that way? Do we ever get shirtless Jensen? We haven't in years. Nor even pajamas - I guess there was the Men of Letters robe that one time, but it covers pretty much his whole body. It's an interesting dynamic.
Also, yeah, Jared did a really good job in the last scene. He outshone Jensen, even, which is an interesting switch.
He did, though I'm willing to put this on direction, a bit. Or show running. I think because Dean is still lying to himself, Dean couldn't actually react to things Sam was saying with honesty, with regret and sorrow and all those beautiful things that we will eventually see. When he's having to play denial and disbelief, there's a lot less for Jensen to work with. It was meant to be Sam's moment, anyway, really - he's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO angry, and he's taking it out on Dean, and we're meant to feel that something fierce. We have to feel it because we're NOT lying to ourselves, we KNOW Dean fucked up, and is still fucking up, and we feel for him, because we know it's going to be a while before he hits rock bottom yet.
And while the thing about grayish shades between monsters and humans has also been done in past seasons (and obviously they are gearing up to let Crowley live. This lady and Garth as a werewolf. Where else can it be going?)
True - and they love Mark Sheppard, so I imagine he'll be hanging around as long as possible. But I wish they'd more fully addressed this earlier - they seem to have absolutely no qualms about killing demons anymore, without exorcising or even trying to save the humans. It's a little frustrating. I'm with them trying to make more of an effort to not kill things that aren't evil, though. Dean only gets "kill all the things" when he's in a downward spiral.