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[personal profile] shadowkat 2017-08-15 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)

I sort of liked the fact that it wrapped everyone up. But, not sure if the after-life made sense within the mythology of the series? Unless it's the pocket afterlife Bonnie created? Did, however find it interesting that in the after-life, everyone ended up or rejoined their blood-relations, in their childhood family home, sans romantic love interests. Damon returned to Stefan, Elena to her parents, etc. Apparently the writers wanted to underline that family connections (brothers, parents, siblings) came before romantic relationships and friendships...which is an interesting perspective, usually the writers take the opposite stance in these series.

Did like that they had Stefan make the sacrifice not Damon, and prevent Damon from doing it by turning Damon human with his blood. That had a nice edge to it. And Stefan got to be with the woman who seemed to understand him the most, Lexi.

What did you think?

anoyo: Damon & Elena dancing Miss Mystic Falls. (tvd damon/elena dance)

[personal profile] anoyo 2017-08-15 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what to make of what the afterlife was, but I also like how they did it. Elena looking for her family and Damen looking for Stefan. They got to live a life together (hopefully), but your significant other is never ~everything~, and I liked how they did that, too.

Stefan going off to be platonic and stop worrying about romance was something I liked, as well. I loved Lexi, but I really just like the idea that Stefan wasn't worried about all the romantic BS anymore. He got to wear his Hero Hair off into the sunset and just be himself. I think it was the truest to Stefan's character they got in a while.

I think what I liked most was that everyone handled it, at the end. A lot of shit went down, but people were able to accept it and move on, basically. No one became, for lack of a better comparison, Katherine, with her eternity-long vendettas. It was a remarkably calm conclusion, and I appreciated it.
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[personal profile] shadowkat 2017-08-15 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd agree. They got past the angst, and it was almost as if they all sort of realized that "romantic love" doesn't define you or necessarily make you happy. Stefan was actually happiest when he wasn't pursuing it. As was Elena in a way. I honestly think that was a major theme of the series -- how dying for your love or killing for your love or revolving your existence around this great passionate love or soul mate, isn't really that satisfying nor does it make you happy.

And it was nice and calm without the angst.

I rather liked the series as a whole. Found it funny, and characters on the whole likable.
anoyo: Klause & Caroline eyes meeting while dancing. (tvd klaus/caroline)

[personal profile] anoyo 2017-08-16 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
100% couldn't agree more.

I loved it way more than I thought I would. I picked it up after season two when a friend told me I'd enjoy it, and I absolutely have. I'll admit to having fallen behind in season seven for a while, but overall: it was fantastic. Vampire Diaries understood the concept that, really, no one is purely good or evil, and everyone has facets. I love it when stories really get that.
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[personal profile] shadowkat 2017-08-16 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)

I do as well. It was character-center, but also for the most part the plotting worked and was satisfying, particularly in the early seasons.

What I liked was how both Stefan and Damon think that their romantic relationships or their consuming passion for some woman (usually Elena) would save them, when in reality what redeems them both are the platonic friendships they develop with others, along with working relationships. It's Damon's relationships with Alaric, Stefan, the Sheriff, and Bonnie that in many ways redeem him, not Elena. Same with Stefan. It really gets across how no one relationship defines you nor an act. That people aren't just their isolated actions, or their isolated relationships. But the sum total of those...and it did it without being preachy. (ie. showing not telling).

anoyo: Jackson being silly-levels angry, text "the feels." (tw jackson the feels)

[personal profile] anoyo 2017-08-16 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I felt, in a lot of places, that it was Stefan and Damon's relationship with one another that was the key point for the series. Nothing to do with Elena at all. And honestly, when they had key moments, I was way more emotionally into them than I was when, say, Damon and Elena finally made out (poor Jeremy). Those familial (and family-of-choice) relationships are the ones that get you through day-to-day, and TVD definitely made that clear.

(Also I added you as a friend. ♥)
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[personal profile] shadowkat 2017-08-16 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)

Totally agree.

Thank you. Will add you when I've access to the journal. Currently responding by email.

anoyo: Arthur looking right, green background, text "darling." (inception darling)

[personal profile] anoyo 2017-08-16 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough! :)